Hey at least you got traffic. After SI completely botching a few flights I thought I’d go back to BATC and see where it is now. Got the well-documented (but no solution) “no traffic liveries found” error so no traffic at all. And, yes, I posted on their Discord and have gotten no response. Both ATC solutions seem to break as much as they fix with each update. 
 

One could always go back use the default ATC?

45 minutes ago, haskell said:

Hey at least you got traffic. After SI completely botching a few flights I thought I’d go back to BATC and see where it is now. Got the well-documented (but no solution) “no traffic liveries found” error so no traffic at all. And, yes, I posted on their Discord and have gotten no response. Both ATC solutions seem to break as much as they fix with each update. 
 

have you tried uninstalling fs2024 + deleting %APPDATA%\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 (steam) + a complete reinstall ?

Edited May 12, 20251 yr by ypaul123

1 hour ago, haskell said:

Both ATC solutions seem to break as much as they fix with each update.

Truest statement I’ve read. However, over the past few days, I’ve definitely noticed some major improvements to SI and has been very fun to use. 

The no traffic liveries found error:   Just a suggestion,  Check if your pathing in the sim is pointing at your desired community folder.  I believe in my case one of the SU2 beta updates switched it back to their default location.  I got that error until I pointed the sim back to my custom location for my community folder, all good after that.

2 hours ago, ypaul123 said:

have you tried uninstalling fs2024 + deleting %APPDATA%\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 (steam) + a complete reinstall ?

I’m on 2020. But no way I’m doing a full reinstall for a 3rd party app. I’ll just stick with SI. Appreciate the suggestion though. 

1 hour ago, bszuch said:

The no traffic liveries found error:   Just a suggestion,  Check if your pathing in the sim is pointing at your desired community folder.  I believe in my case one of the SU2 beta updates switched it back to their default location.  I got that error until I pointed the sim back to my custom location for my community folder, all good after that.

Where would I find/change that in MSFS?

EDIT: found it in usercfg.opt file. It was correct. Thanks for your help tho

Edited May 12, 20251 yr by haskell

10 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

The AI in P3Dv4 did a solid job of directing aircraft correctly on the ground. It is a shame that MSFS is more last generation than next generation in this respect.

I don’t recall much (if any) complaints for P3D and FSX. It wasn’t complex.. no SIDs/STARS.. but we had traffic that moved on the ground properly, ten different voices, a program to customize AI phrases, aircraft that flared properly, ATC that kept the pilot on course and not into mountains, and even a 3rd party helicopter AI program that worked really well.  We have really taken a step backwards when it comes to AI and ATC.

12 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

What BATC needs is a little bit of customization similar to what FSHUD has.  

Agreed! We need to be able to set nodes that overide the scenery so that we can crowd source the proper procedures 

10 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Did you post this on their Discord bug list, or just come here to complain? 

Checked every support thread in the Discord and nope, no post, so this goes unreported to BATC.

8 hours ago, haskell said:

I’m on 2020. But no way I’m doing a full reinstall for a 3rd party app. I’ll just stick with SI. Appreciate the suggestion though. 

See if FSLTL's base library is detected by reviewing your user content inside the sim...this may give you an idea. 

another suggestion would be to 1- try to regenerate the layout.json files in your AI models(traffic) folder, and if that doesn't make it show traffic, 2-  remove any AI Traffic folders from your .\community folder and reinstall FSLTL's traffic using the flybywire installer. 3rd option would be to simply remove the AI Traffic folder from %appdata%\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 folder (in simobjects).

use  Void's Everything (version 1.5a) to search for any other folders related to the aforementioned traffic folder. 

 

Good luck.

 

Edited May 13, 20251 yr by ypaul123

I use BATC with every flight and have done since its release. I fly every day, sometimes twice, and I have never had any problems with the AI traffic program apart from an odd stutter, which has slowly improved with every update. I'm running the experimental version, which is updated on a regular basis. Did you know that there are three separate versions of BATC you can run? The Vulcan version, DX11 version and the OpenGL version, use whichever gives you the best performance.

2 minutes ago, SierraHotel BSc said:

I use BATC with every flight and have done since its release. I fly every day, sometimes twice, and I have never had any problems with the AI traffic program apart from an odd stutter, which has slowly improved with every update. I'm running the experimental version, which is updated on a regular basis. Did you know that there are three separate versions of BATC you can run? The Vulcan version, DX11 version and the OpenGL version, use whichever gives you the best performance.

Didn't know that, thanks. What version gives you the best performance?

 

Found this: Very Slow Response (if any) from Beyond ATC in VR - Discussion Hub / Home Cockpit Builders - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

"Vulkan is the default and preferred version unless it causes problems starting BATC or instability.

To force the OpenGL or DirectX version, start BATC using the bat file for that version from your install directory.

For OpenGL run : BeyondATC_ForceOpenGL.bat
For DirectX 11 run : BeyondATC_ForceDirectX11.bat"

 

15 hours ago, haskell said:

Where would I find/change that in MSFS?

EDIT: found it in usercfg.opt file. It was correct. Thanks for your help tho

Are you running BATC in administration mode?

For me it's a no go right now BATC when for instance at LPPT I'm told to backtrack on runway 20 instead of being given the correct taxiways... It's not isolated because I experienced it at least at another airport.

FSHUD appears to be frozen 😕

I've tried to go default ATC and Traffic but it's really bad...

I have to give SI a try.

Edited May 13, 20251 yr by jcomm