4 hours ago, Matchstick said:

The encryption on the 2020 marketplace was broken almost immediately and quite possible offered significantly less protection than that on third party stores.

 

There is no protection once the version from 3rd party stores have been unzipped/decrypted and put in the Community folder. Some of the stuff I bought have been from 3rd party stores and the version that is placed in the Community folder has no protection at all from piracy. The key point you are missing is pirates are pirating the final unzipped/decrypted version that is placed in the Community folder.

With marketplace purchases, those are atill encrypted when it's dowloaded to the hard drive and placed in the MSFS subfolder structure. Granted, the encryption may have been broken as you mentioned, but it does offer better protection for 3rd party developers, versus no protrction at all for the final Community folder version.

Edited July 1, 2025Jul 1 by abrams_tank

4 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

There is no protection once the version from 3rd party stores have been unzipped/decrypted and put in the Community folder. Some of the stuff I bought have been from 3rd party stores and the version that is placed in the Community folder has no protection at all from piracy. The key point you are missing is pirates are pirating the final unzipped/decrypted version that is placed in the Community folder.

With marketplace purchases, those are atill encrypted when it's dowloaded to the hard drive and placed in the MSFS subfolder structure. Granted, the encryption may have been broken as you mentioned, but it does offer better protection for 3rd party developers, versus no protrction at all for the final Community folder version.

It's really difficult to talk about piracy on a responsible forum 

in terms of third party stores any plane that uses a WASM module can have a security added and stores like Just Flight use that to disable an add-on if it doesn't recognise the installation. My guess is that doesn't prevent a determined attack, but it does at least prevent trivial copy and paste.
And unfortunately with the encryption mechanism broken, that's no more protection than the Marketplace in 2020 offers.

One thing MS could do would be to flag and ban people running marketplace-only planes on accounts that don't possess that plane but they haven't done that so far.

Edited July 1, 2025Jul 1 by Matchstick

Can't wait till this one releases!

Gonna park this bad boy right beside my HJet at KFLL.

Come on July 10th!!!!!!!!!!

The biggest selling point for me its not-another-Garmin GA plane.

Really good videos about the citation x from a real citation x pilot on his channel:

https://youtube.com/@johnkluenker?si=AIKM_JPMG-cTdrYS

 

His jet was used by the Flightfx team.

Edited July 6, 2025Jul 6 by Merawen

I'm curious about the openstreetmap integration they talk about. 

 

5 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

I'm curious about the openstreetmap integration they talk about. 

 

What's there to know? It's just a map on the EFB. Nothing all that interesting. 

There are no "teaser videos / reviews" out yet are there?

3 hours ago, chapstick said:

What's there to know? It's just a map on the EFB. Nothing all that interesting. 

Ahh, my imagination envisioned something more grand lol.

On 7/1/2025 at 12:47 AM, Matchstick said:

It's really difficult to talk about piracy on a responsible forum 

in terms of third party stores any plane that uses a WASM module can have a security added and stores like Just Flight use that to disable an add-on if it doesn't recognise the installation. My guess is that doesn't prevent a determined attack, but it does at least prevent trivial copy and paste.
And unfortunately with the encryption mechanism broken, that's no more protection than the Marketplace in 2020 offers.

One thing MS could do would be to flag and ban people running marketplace-only planes on accounts that don't possess that plane but they haven't done that so far.

An important element appears lost in this discussion.  The issue of widespread affordability and purchases.  The potential to curb piracy provides an avenue to maintain prices in a widely affordable price level that creates wide user adaptation of highly developed models and funds development of additional future models.  It is more from what is paid for than what is at the end of the day gained from what is not paid for.

I know. That is a word salad. But give it consideration.  The pricing of models from this developer along with user response appears to be very productive in giving birth to more.

Edited July 6, 2025Jul 6 by fppilot

Why are there no video's like three day before release? Really looking forward to this one, was expecting some teasers etc..

Really like this business jets, it is like magical to fly something you can not really afford in real life.......

Edited July 7, 2025Jul 7 by rob0203

From the images they seem to have been able to get a single male pilot to show up. I hope they can do the same with the P180 now which has always had a female pilot which can't be changed.  They had said that was an Asobo issue they couldn't do anything about. 

Edited July 7, 2025Jul 7 by St Mawgan

When are they releasing it to the YouTubers ? 

55 minutes ago, rob0203 said:

Why are there no video's like three day before release? Really looking forward to this one, was expecting some teasers etc..

Really like this business jets, it is like magical to fly something you can not really afford in real life.......

This is a good one - it's extremely relevant to the sim version hehe.

https://youtu.be/B5rLftwOPzM?si=14P_-nBXaR9TCZpY

So.... should I really not be too excited for this? We are ~48 hours away from availability and there is no video and limited photo content available for the product. Just strikes me as odd.....

9 minutes ago, lehbird said:

So.... should I really not be too excited for this? We are ~48 hours away from availability and there is no video and limited photo content available for the product. Just strikes me as odd.....

Honestly I think it's great that we haven't seen a flood of streams and videos yet. In my opinion most devs give the green light for previews way too early, and by the time the add-on actually releases (sometimes two weeks later), you've already seen every nook and cranny. There is nothing left to explore on your own.

Twotonemurphy will be hosting a livestream with the developers tomorrow, and it's likely that other creators will also post YouTube videos.