7 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

if the plane you are using in Free Flight in MSFS 2024 is compatible and well done, I think you can enjoy Free Flight right now in MSFS 2024

This is the only thing I will ever use in 2024. I am using 2024 pretty much all the time now, but ONLY very low and slow, ground level (walkabout) on occasion, only with a couple of the default aircraft, and only in rural areas. Everything, and I do mean everything, else about it is a serious mess. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with what I can do with it, but the fact that that is all I feel I can do with it is pretty poor for a major release from a company like Microsoft.

14 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

This is the only thing I will ever use in 2024

Well, a lot of stuff works. Not sure what makes you think you can ONLY fly very slow and slow. But it doesn't matter - probably you haven't tried any airliners (default or payware), and that's ok. We all have different experiences. 

I seem to remember that you don't really care about the whole aircraft/cockpit/flying experience of MSFS. Well, the cheapest option is probably Google Earth/Bing Maps/Apple Maps. You can zoom in and out, tilt up and down, and check out photogrammetry buildings without any performance hit whatsoever. Great for discovering the world!

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

I still enjoy flying my RV14A out of KHQM Bowerman... Both the SWS aircraft/TDS GTN750 and the lovely little addon airport made by Vincent B perform flawlessly..  And yes, 2024 is smoother, and looks better than 2020.

2 hours ago, strider1 said:

I just flew up the Big Sur Coastline in CA, and it did not look as good as that video. Problem is, you have to fly supper slow and low. Second, the coastline is ruined by so many trees on the water edge and on the rugged cliffs and rocks. 

Yes, trees are an issue in the release of 2024, but have you tried Global trees for 2024? For about $8 this software works great removing trees where they should not be. The rocks and cliffs looked normal to me.

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by Bigmack

2 hours ago, YukonPete said:

Really? You didn't think that's its more likely just the video capture and editing? Some of you look for a reason to hate 2024. 

I don't even own MSFS 2024 and I'm too old to participate in this war between the sims, but it could certainly be the video capture that caused the stuttering.

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by Ixoye

3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

it's not like I could close my eyes as we approach the sanctuary moon of Endor

Ahh these puny non-jedi/sith humans. No Force for YOU pal! 

😜

15 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

It's probably the browser you are using or the device you are using. Click on the Reddit link to go to the actual Reddit post if you don't see the video. If you are on Firefox or Chrome on PC, you should be able to see the video.  If you try to view the video from Avsim, it may not work properly.

I took a look at the video and the scenery does look beautiful, but I do see sluggish performance with a chopper. The sim still needs to be optimized for better, smoother, performance.

I have an addon scenery for 2020 called Italian Coastlines and some of the area are just as breathtaking.

https://flightsim.to/product/project-coastline-italy

10 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

But, but, if you look 13 miles into the distance, it's all a blurry mess!!!!!!

It is a blurry mess but you can always pretend the mess is not  there. An easy solution is to look downwards, not into the distance. 

1 hour ago, Ixoye said:

I don't even own MSFS 2024 and I'm too old to participate in this war between the sims, but it could certainly be the video capture that caused the stuttering.

Screen capture programs will not cause stutters, but can certainly exaggerate or intensify stutters that are visible in the source.

2 hours ago, Bigmack said:

Yes, trees are an issue in the release of 2024, but have you tried Global trees for 2024? For about $8 this software works great removing trees where they should not be. The rocks and cliffs looked normal to me.

Interesting and tempting! But I would rather not buy any add-ons till ASOBO fixes all the VR bugs.  

Well, here.

Stop buzzing the tower of people's homes on the coastline.

That would give me a stutter, too. 

😄

16 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

But the stutters are free...😉

That just goes to show.....people get something for free, and they still complain!!!😲

8 hours ago, andy1252 said:

Everything, and I do mean everything, else about it is a serious mess.

I have been using the Fenix A320 and Just flight RJ's.  Both are working well. 

11 hours ago, Noel said:

Begs the question:  how many other areas, coastlines at least, will look as quality as this?

I was out flying the optica (very) low and slow over the desolate moorlands where I live in the U.K. Peak District national park. These uplands are patterned by small gullies often no more than 50cm deep caused by natural erosion.

These gullies show up well in the 24 sim giving the landscape incredible texture and realism. 
Also with a 20kt breeze out of the west I was surfing the little Optica over ridge lines and enjoying the sudden realistic burbling turbulence in my motion rig.

Ultimately I got a little too low and slow down wind of a ridge and felt the optica sink an a downdraught from which I didn’t have room to recover, and got deposited on the hillside. Sometimes when playing around with fast jets too hard & way too low I accept the odd crash is inevitable. However that optica incident although completely understandable and avoidable had I been giving the simulator physics the respect they now deserve, unsettled me somewhat, the simulator had bitten back in a completely realistic manner I wasn’t expecting.

It doesn’t seem too long ago,FSX days, we had to stay above 1000ft to avoid the blurry mess the terrain turned into, now I’m scooting 30ft over moorlands with complete clarity and the sense of speed and immersion in VR is just indescribable.

As I’ve said before 2024 gives the best sensation of low level flight I’ve ever experienced in a sim ever.

I was also  flying jets out of Edwards over the Californian mountains in FS2020 earlier in the day which was also looking spectacular and unless I’m imagining it seems to have had a facelift recently.

 

10 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Well, a lot of stuff works. Not sure what makes you think you can ONLY fly very slow and slow. But it doesn't matter - probably you haven't tried any airliners (default or payware), and that's ok. We all have different experiences. 

I seem to remember that you don't really care about the whole aircraft/cockpit/flying experience of MSFS. Well, the cheapest option is probably Google Earth/Bing Maps/Apple Maps. You can zoom in and out, tilt up and down, and check out photogrammetry buildings without any performance hit whatsoever. Great for discovering the world!

Oh, I like the different aircraft just fine. Probably got between 200 - 300 aircraft in 2020, and similar (or more) in all my previous sims. Cost me a fortune over the years. I love to move around my fake world in them. But I have no interest in pretending to actually control them, in the procedural sense. Ctrl-e, pedals, throttle and stick and I'm happy. I just want to get in the air and go exploring. I rarely go above 4000 feet even in a 777 because what's the point? I'm always outside looking at the plane with a big tube. You're right, the cockpit has about as much attraction for me as a proctologist's table. I'm happy to pretend to sit in a cockpit of something like a Cessna, for a short spell anyway, but not a tubeliner.

What I mean about 2024 is that free flight is the only form of activity I care for. Not interested in any kind of role playing so no career mode or similar. And I have tried a few airliners but the issue for me at the moment is level of object popping that goes on in 2024. Objects, particularly at airports, don't show up until you're practically on top of them, and disappear equally quickly as you go past them. I dare say that may not bother those of you that are concentrating on flying the aircraft but for me it makes most of the big airports I've gone near a no-go proposition. Once they've got that fixed I'll use the big iron a bit more.

But I am definitely almost as much of a wing-nut as I am a scenery fiend. Google Earth is fine for scenery verification (as in "does it really look like that there?") but no substitute for a real digital twin model, which is hopefully what 2024 is progressing towards. And who knows what old aviation friends, in the form of childhood plastic models, may yet turn up to fly around with? I live in hope of things like a well modelled B-58 showing up for 2024.

And I doubt they'll create a career mode for that!