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Two questions about BeyondATC
BrammyH replied to SquadronLeader's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
That number I believe is the maximum altitude; not the optimal. -
This is very interesting. I didn’t know that.
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Because if you remove the cosmetics off the cheap 30$ add-on you'll find something that we have had for years. There are decade(s) old ATC programs that are at least as good if not a whole lot better when it comes to, well...ATC. At this point it brings nothing new unless you consider computer generated accents as being top priority. The question of price is entirely irrelevant to the nature of the addon.
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Old Orchard (aka: ORD), United, and Me ... (20 Pics) ...
andy1252 replied to P_7878's topic in The AVSIM Screen Shots Forum
That's the nice thing about not caring about the flying (piloting) side of all this - I wouldn't know the difference between a 747/777/767 cockpit anyway. I could probably tell if they were using the default Cessna 150, but beyond that - not really <grin>. Given that I don't use a yoke, just a CH Pro HOTAS setup, none of them match my desktop anyway. As you say, an aircraft is a whole lot more than just its sim performance/behaviour. Some of them are like old friends (even to the point of scruffiness and crankiness <grin>) -
Black Square Duke Released!
Treetops45 replied to GACSavannah's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
Bert, interested to know if you load a Turbine Duke with the PMS GPS as the one already chosen in your EFB, & then fly it, whether the aircraft follows the PMS flight plan? All my Turbine Duke liveries currently load with TDS as the 'default' GPS in the EFB. When I change [ "hot swap"?], to the PMS via the EFB, the GPS screen then has green txt at the bottom of the PMS screen switching rapidly between the text, ENR & TERM. Also the Magenta Line twitches, which, I know from previous flights means the aircraft is not going to follow an NAV magenta line. Any way to get the PMS set up as the default GPS for when you load the aircraft? If I can get that in place then I can test the PMS. T45 -
Two questions about BeyondATC
jon b replied to SquadronLeader's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
RNAV STARS connecting directly onto an ILS are becoming more common now in the USA. In the Uk however the STARS still usually terminate at a holding fix , and from their expect radar vectors to the ILS. -
Never used it, because it would be a breath of death for my wallet. Why do people compare a cheap $30 add-on to a ridiculously expensive subscription based add-on? It should better be A LOT better than Beyond ATC at this insane pricing. I'm perfectly happy with Beyond ATC in early access. With all the patches coming daily it will have a bright future ahead.
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Real-world GTN650 navdata work for updating 430?
PeterBremer replied to Lennard78's topic in RXP General Forum
For the 430W, download the database to your PC. Before installing it on the card, unhide the files in the directory where it downloaded the database, Use the relevant file for the simulated version worldwide.bin -
As Garmin publishes the necessary information and I was able to create the required really up-to-date databases for the 430/530 on a 28-day interval on it, I expect there would be commercial possibilities as well. For obvious reasons I do not publish that method.
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This is why I personally have not purchased BATC. With Say intentions I can ask anything of ATC, no problems with needing to follow a script. What I have read so far about BATC is a more clever version of the standard scripted ATC we have had for years. Say intentions has been a breath of fresh air in the ATC addon space.
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Black Square Duke Released!
sloppysmusic replied to GACSavannah's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
Just to rule something out is this for all flights? It's not a rocket but it will settle into a speedy cruise once leveled off and power /prop and importantly mixture is adjusted. Also definitely no flap still down? I once flew a 2 hour flight in the 736 pmdg with flaps 1 as my deteriorating eyes missed the flap dial. It was small enough to not think something was drastically wrong but enough to make me check everything else in the plane first. Msfs mixture is not the most accurate from what I've heard. The sweet spot is not always where it should be and it's not a smooth transition either. -
It's very odd but even though I do think BATC is way too buggy still and FSHud is superior when it comes to the ATC itself I just can't stop using BATC... There is something about the interface and the voices and also parts of the phraseology which makes me use BATC all the time. Even though I know it is a very, very buggy addon. And even though I actually seriously wonder if they will ever be able to fix things completely. I mean... the dev himself said it is impossible (!!!) to create an ATC addon that will work for every airport and every procedure in MSFS. So... should we be happy with 75% or the airports working? Or 50%? I never heard another ATC addon dev day they won't be able to support every airport and procedure. But well, maybe the BATC dev simply is honest and the others aren't. 😉
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I noticed that in at least the past two Carenado discount sales that none of their FSX/P3D products were offered at any discount. Seemed strange to have a big sale and keep full price on the oldest products.
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Yes, specially when everything goes according to plan. I sometimes wonder why I am so interested in ATC software... it usually does what I expect it to do and when it doesn't it's usually due to bugs. If often feel I myself have to take ATC by the hand and lead it on so things indeed go according to plan. You might say because it adds to the immersion and that's true but after a while you get to know all the lines that ATC usually says and it becomes more and more obvious it's all fake. SI would or should be the exception to that... But BATC is very obviously 100% scripted which you specially notice when 'funny' things are being said, like when you ask for clearance when you aren't near the runway. It's funny to hear ATC shout at you at that time but when you have heard the EXACT same 'funny' line a few times it becomes a total immersion killer. I rather had BATC didn't say anything funny at all like FSHud. Sometimes (well, quite often) less is better. -
Two questions about BeyondATC
sloppysmusic replied to SquadronLeader's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
I didn't know this but it makes sense now. If I'm correct the main point of ATC is aircraft separation and to a lesser but important extent providing help in finding the airport in changing IFR conditions. If there is no ai coverage am I correct in assuming the result is similar to making a road trip by car where there are multiple traffic light stops and roundabouts but only you obey them all other drivers ignore them? -
Stairs added. Savannah
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Correct. However, FSHUD allows the use of historic call signs. I fly a ton of old US Airways routes.
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Two questions about BeyondATC
SAS443 replied to SquadronLeader's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
The Lakey 1M is an "open ended"-procedure, so just by looking at the chart, I'd expect vectors from wpt "ROSUN" at the very latest. However, if I was on a "closed" procedure which connects to the ILS, I would not expect vectors unless it was for spacing/wx requiring it. But then again, BATC is unable to manage A.I traffic in the first place. This is one of those scenarios where you would not be as surprised if preceding traffic also got vectoring. And this is why at least I find very little use of BATC currently. ATC is so much more than correct phraseology, it's the challenge to create that mental image where other traffic are, what to clearances to expect later on, in other words to be dialed-in as PIC. BATC babysitting only your airplane is a good start, but it's missing the big picture. -
XP 12 has the ability to do GLS/WAAS/LPV approaches in Boeing and Airbus aircraft which other sims currently do not. -
Isn't real ATC kind of scripted too (= following a very strict and regulated communication scheme)? -
There are times when I cannot turn on the Auto Pilot, and other times that I can. What causes the AP to not turn on. Thank you.
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Two questions about BeyondATC
Fiorentoni replied to SquadronLeader's topic in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)
1) Yes, ATC does not know nor care about what you FMC considers the optimum flightlevel (for fuel usage reasons). You have to ask them for higher. 2) Yes, radar vectors are very common in real life. Sometimes to separate traffic, sometimes to give a shortcut on a very long STAR. -
I think you are correct. There is an entire field that deals with quantum effects in living beings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_biology
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I can't fly anymore without FSHUD. The appeal of XP is diminishing day by day. I would have loved to have this same ATC for XP12, it would have completely changed the situation. -
Total disagree. There was a deadly incident with some regional carrier in the US a couple of years ago, where they took off from the wrong runway during night and crashed. Reading back the runway is an essential safety barrier. Keep in mind Tower does not necessarily see you (visually or on the radar), especially at night at smaller airports. EDIT: Also there was another incident in Singapore (?) with a 747 that accidentally took off from a runway under maintenance and crashed and burned into a caterpillar on the runway.
