I would just like to point out, in response to a comment RSR made in the 2nd video, John Glenn was launched on an Atlas rocket, not Redstone, Redstone was sub-orbital flights :(....can I still have a 777?....please.....

Oh good. I was not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing with him.While you are here, is there a limit in 737 VNAV geometry? Recently, I have been writing a procedure for IGS in LSGS and it keeps telling me NO DES PATH after xxxxx - might it have problems with 6° descent?

Yes, there's always a limiting angle (I forget the equation that calculates it, Vangelis told me a while back) - if the predicted path exceeds that angle, you get the NO DES PATH, DES PATH UNACHIEVABLE, etc messages. 6 degrees is pretty steep - I don't think you'd really be able to do that unless you were fully configured, gear down etc - ala the LOWI approach. Even then it may be tough.

Ryan: yep, fully configured into the steep glideslope approach. Since I dont think there is a way to force Vapp at a fix in the procedure file, I took to enter Vapp manually in the legs page, but the FMC will still give me the message. I guess I can live with that. FS limiting the glideslope range so that it only shows up past FAF is the worse problem.Anyway thanks for confirming that more likely than not the problem is not in my procedure. (btw shold anybody want to try and fly the approach... go for Flap40. Flap30 will not give you enough drag most of the time...)

What a coincidence: I've flown the LSGS yesterday with 738.Yes, fully configured, going down the valley at 136 knots ... more challenging as the LOWI approach.Also because there is no approach you can simply enter into the FMC, I had to insert all waypoints manually (what is possible thanks to the great NGX FMC!)Looking forward to your tutorial!

That guy uploading the conference videos on You Tube is 100%, pure, natural sadist (will all due respect) :(

Well the videos are posted by a guy who uploads X-Plane videos... :(

Thats just to throw us off and enhance the confusement"we`re gonna give you another twin" - he says as he points towards the 777, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, hes just saying that we are getting another twin, in addition to the NGX...

The dash 8 is a twin. but with whirly things instead of thrusty things.

You mean like this? :(RSR had these custom made by Pacific Miniatures for the team in celebration of the release - extremely cool and it sits on my desk right next to me!

Nice!You should make a competition for people to win one. For example, for the first 20 people to report a bug that actually is one :(

part 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Oj2o4RMkc&context=C4bae367ADvjVQa1PpcFNDpSNT-fIQU7S0Y8tm9d-SuHw9b8stubY=

Even more embarrassing if you are a so called " Hard Core " simmer who can't do it........using the mouse as a controller !" Oh, my joystick is too :( sensitive etc........"Fred

Fred, stop do that please, I'm 100% sure you know there is Flight subforum up there.

Already seen part 2. We want 3 and 4.

Figures that part 2 ends right before he announces the 747v2...

That guy uploading the conference videos on You Tube is 100%, pure, natural sadist (will all due respect) :(

Let's hope not, but if it means anything, his previous video series was a four part XP10 demo with Austin, of which he only posted part 1 and 2, that was 3 months ago....Just saying!!!

He actually mangled that explanation a bit haha. The NGX has geometric VNAV, which means essentially that it goes at a constant descent angle in a straight line between all restrictions. The 777 is going to have non-geometric or idle-path VNAV, which means it will actually fly level for a while after the previous restriction altitude and then commence an idle descent once closer to the next waypoint rather than going down at a constant shallow rate the whole way. Straight line descent with power on vs. a stairstep type thing using level segments followed by idle path segments to get down further. The vast majority of airlines have the non-geometric option.

Ryan,Robert mentioned that later after the NGX development was well underway, you'all found out there were only 3 or 4 airlines that actually use the geometric VNAV profile. Has there been any discussion within the team to possibly apply the non-gemetric VNAV profile developed for the 777, as a follow-on option to the NGX? Perhaps as a later SP or something? I'm just curious as I'm sure that was quite disheartening news to the team after modeling so many other 'Boeing standards'. I would think the enormous effort put into the SDK and framework would allow a retrofit from one project to another without a great deal effort, would it not? Although, I would not be surprised if such an effort was really out-of-scope at this time - with everything else on the PMDG plate. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

want the PMDG Model!!! i would so buy it if you sold it!