35 minutes ago, Abriael said:

Mine below has live weather improvements. Someone in the thread mentioned another (I don't know which one) in which they said that improvements to ATC will come down the line because of all the changes to live traffic and such. 

The fact that they gave so many interviews means they're open to pretty much any questions.

I haven't heard of relevant "no comment" answers and no one has been told "please don't ask about X or Y"

Everyone has asked whatever they wanted, and if something has not been tackled, it simply means no one asked.

This man, asking the megaton questions right off the bat! I just started the video but I'm hoping you also brought up THAT issue lol.

I wonder how many months it will take them to iron out the rough edges to make 2024 really playable? And yes i am buying the Aviator version, just not at release. Well, unless the word not allowed suck me into it again lol. I am thinking it takes them a minimum of six months, but more likely 12. I expect most of the new features to have game breaking bugs, and it will be many months before the majority of third party add ons are compatible. I am very positive about MSFS but trying to set reasonable expectations. They have added a lot of new capabilities to 2024 and it isn’t like they nailed many 2020 features the first (or second) attempt. This is going to be really amazing for our hobby, but i am fully expecting heavy turbulence! 

Goes over all the aircraft in the demo UI, which have the third party dev next to to them. Blackbird made the Chinook for example

 

While I absolutely support and look forward to 2024 l am more careful of the enthusiasm of the initial previews here from people or attendees who are invited by Asobo and Microsoft in a controlled environment , and naturally am going to have to treat all of their pre-reviews with some caution. Areas that need mention are compatibility with current add ons and how will that be handled by the sim.Aircraft duplication lliveries, and ease of install.. So Ignoring some of the over excited comments, i look forward to more in depth reviews in the future because i, like all of us probably, want this updated version to succeed.

 

 

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by ray hughes

8 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I wonder how many months it will take them to iron out the rough edges to make 2024 really playable? And yes i am buying the Aviator version, just not at release. Well, unless the word not allowed suck me into it again lol. I am thinking it takes them a minimum of six months, but more likely 12. I expect most of the new features to have game breaking bugs, and it will be many months before the majority of third party add ons are compatible. I am very positive about MSFS but trying to set reasonable expectations. They have added a lot of new capabilities to 2024 and it isn’t like they nailed many 2020 features the first (or second) attempt. This is going to be really amazing for our hobby, but i am fully expecting heavy turbulence! 

I am not anticipating 2024 being as much of a trainwreck like 2020 was initially, there's no way. Will there be bugs? 100%, but there's no chance this version is what it was in its infancy and if it is, they're going to get an earful, especially since there's so many commercial community members working on this thing. 

12 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I wonder how many months it will take them to iron out the rough edges to make 2024 really playable? And yes i am buying the Aviator version, just not at release. Well, unless the word not allowed suck me into it again lol. I am thinking it takes them a minimum of six months, but more likely 12. I expect most of the new features to have game breaking bugs, and it will be many months before the majority of third party add ons are compatible. I am very positive about MSFS but trying to set reasonable expectations. They have added a lot of new capabilities to 2024 and it isn’t like they nailed many 2020 features the first (or second) attempt. This is going to be really amazing for our hobby, but i am fully expecting heavy turbulence! 

Asobo are in a much different position vs the early days of 2020, both core team wise and their experience, and their greatly expanded network of 3rd party dev partnerships. All that said, no one can really tell how many bugs and rough edges the sim will initially ship with.. I'm expecting a month or two for things to stabilize with major bugs out of the way. Also feel that existing 3rd party aircraft add-ons will be quickly ready to work as-is with MSFS 2024, the question is how long the devs will need to take advantage of the new MSFS 2024 features. Either one has to wait until the sim is in a suitable state for them, or dive right in with risk of early growing pains and all.

At least MSFS 2020 will continue to be usable for a few years, and likely more (for every time MSFS 2024 breaks or some new feature introduces a unsavory bug or two 🙂)
 

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by lwt1971

Really liking what I’ve seen so far, particularly:

- FM: As well as commentators’ comments, I think, hope, believe I can see evidence of inertia…..?!

- Lighting: Gorgeous. Everywhere, and all times of day / night that I’ve seen.

- Shadows: Of course we knew about raytracing in the cockpit, but is it global? So far I don’t think I’ve seen any of the screen spaced shadow problems in water reflections of terrain…?

- Water: Movement looks great, and also, I think, hope, believe I can see evidence of different water colours, especially inland….?!

- Flight planning: Really excited about this and wanna see more detail about the charts, but to have it as a default feature!

- Clouds: definitely looking better, and wonderful to have cirrus, but want more details about how this all works in Live weather, as that’s all I use really. Want to see more about cloud turbulence, but biggest question for me is visibility. Are we finally getting global models of visibility and not just metar?

- Terrain / biomes: Always a strength, and just getting better and better.

Naturally questions over performance, streaming stability etc., but so far, this really does look like a huge jump from 2020, much bigger than the impression I’d got from the previous marketing. 

I’m all in!

I anticipate bugs like everyone has said so far. However, I plan to play with no addons to test just what is available and add things as needed. Specifically, an ATC program.

 

Now, to catch up and watch these videos since I just got home from work. I have a lot to absorb!

Well, as underwhelming as I thought it would be. None of the 859 new aircraft are of any interest to me, since they will be not complex enough for my demands (the A330 might be the one exception, apparently iniBuilds have been working a lot on that, trying to get it to A320neo level at least).

For my airliner flying I actually don't really know what core changes even matter for me. I mean, I won't get stuck in the mud with a 777 (I hope). Textures look the same, buildings look the same, PG looks the same, satellite photos look the same, clouds a bit better but not sure - I feel like 5 hours in I wouldn't even notice anymore I'm on MSFS 2024. I guess the good news is, that this also makes it highly probably that basically everything is easily made compatible with MSFS 2024.

From what I've seen I actually wouldn't buy it, but I know there'll be no improvements to MSFS 2020 anymore and devs will release for 2024 only mostly, I assume. So the standard version it will be, I think. But I'm definitely not in a hurry.

4 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

but I know there'll be no improvements to MSFS 2020 anymore

That's not entirely true. 2020 will still get Sim Updates, just not as often as before.

They've said they'll back port more 2024 features that don't require a lot of work to be in 2020.

  

4 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

For my airliner flying I actually don't really know what core changes even matter for me.

Well for one thing turbulence in storms actually works now.

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

Well, I just went ahead and bought the collector edition.

The price on the aerosoft site using the google exchange rate was actually £3 (uk)Pounds cheaper than the aviator edition on Xbox.com

Economy Shipping adds another £20, although being greedy and impatient I upgraded to express shipping at £40.
That price didn’t include VAT so maybe another £40 to pay to when it lands, who knows.

However for potentially as little as only £20 extra up to a potential maximum of £60 ( 20 shipping + 40 VAT) I thought it was worthwhile to get some physical objects with my purchase.

37 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Goes over all the aircraft in the demo UI, which have the third party dev next to to them. Blackbird made the Chinook for example

Oh that’s interesting, I wonder if it’s the same variant as the Miltech one?

1 minute ago, regis9 said:

Oh that’s interesting, I wonder if it’s the same variant as the Miltech one?

Yes, they're both CH-47Ds

I feel Asobo is taking the sim in the right direction and opening up to more users while showing huge support for hardcore simmer like myself. I'm not 100% ready to jump into the new sim until the addons I use and need are available in 2024. I am a bit of a scenery junky so it would be interesting to know more about what airports are the improved ones to help determine which version I will get.

Anyone know if you can fly over the Poles in this version?