FENIX, PMDG, GSX, AIG planes, PSXT/RT, FSHud, 70+ sceneries...once these goodies are ready for MSFS2024, I will switch. Plus, I'd rather wait for MSFS2024 to get its first critical patches. With this being said, I'm planning for March-April 2025. Also, new AMD chips will get better knowledge base for fine-tuning by this time. Not interested in any of the planes MSFS provides

Edited October 1, 20241 yr by G-YMML1

I think you just have to look at how busy the FSX forum is here (even the FS9 forum for goodness sake) to see how some people like to cling on to what they know. 

29 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

I think you just have to look at how busy the FSX forum is here (even the FS9 forum for goodness sake) to see how some people like to cling on to what they know. 

Your somewhat missing the point though in gaming in general, I get your point but there are other reasons and one of which is why people still clamour for old consoles, same way people drive old cars and planes..... I have every generation of XBOX and a Dreamcast for example and also a PS1 but its not set up...

I'm a gaming geek, I don't just play MSFS, it did blow my mind when i got it 4 years ago or whatever it was, still does. 

If all you use is MSFS and have all the controls etc and you are basically living as virtual pilot then i guess jumping to the new one is worth it, i'm just saying for now i don't need it.

I'll do the same thing I did with Prepar3D and X-Plane: immediately install the new version to give it a try, but keep the previous versions around just in case it turns out to be a dumpster fire.

I might even consider keeping v2020 around awhile just in case some of my most favorite 3PD addons don't work immediately.

In P3D that was always a (debilitating) factor.

In X-Plane v12, the new/upgraded Defaults were good enough to keep me engaged, plus at least a handful of devs had v12 compatible updates out on Beta launch day.

As long as v2024 works out of the box, I easily see me spending the vast majority of my time (initially) just exploring the new addons and missions and such. Will give the 3PDs a chance to catch up 🙂

I'll uninstall FS2020 but only after we've determined how add-ons can be transferred across to FS2024 using Addons Manager, or even if they can be.

I'll be ever thankful to Microsobo and MSFS2020 for rekindling my love of flight sims. It's been a hugely enjoyable three years for me. Roll on 19th November - definitely a case of Christmas come early. 👍

2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

You mean phone or tablet.

other makes are available 🙂 

4 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Why not use the Map Enhancement tool and see what the other map options offer?

Thats a good question and I should have mentioned it in my original comment. Unfortunately that screenshot you see is with the MET active. I use it regularly.  I was hoping it would pull back cleaned-up Bing imagery.

If I recall correctly the AI tech (Azure) was supposed to remove the clouds and replace them with surrounding clear terrain the Azure would use a reference.

5 hours ago, flightyjoe said:

Next time be careful who you are agreeing with then. Quite simple

It is also simple to more slowly read and understand before you reply.

6 hours ago, flightyjoe said:

"i was in MSFS for the sheer beauty of it all, still makes me gasp now at times."

With your remark in mind i'm even more clueless as to why you won't make the switch to msfs2024...unless you've missed the preview vids.
Do you know what it actually means for sheer beauty in a game when there's 4000 times more terrain detail?

18 hours ago, Rimshot said:

Which is possible in MSFS2024 as well; but with an elaborate flight planner, better graphics, improved weather and evolved physics. So basically MSFS2020 plus, and a very big plus for that matter.

Of course you do no have to use the mission system, just as you do not have to do the challenges in MSFS2020.

 

But all that has also a price: At least investments in advanced Hardware (new GPU in my case) and the Software itself (and costs for Addon updates).

Fair enough - If all these advantages you name do convince me some day I will surely change to the new version.

19 hours ago, Sethos said:

Actually, you just owngoaled yourself into a stupid post by showing how little you care about flight simming and all the improvements 2024 bring, seems it's all about shallow visuals for you. Rest of us are looking forward to improvements in flight modelling, live traffic, weather, improved performance in going DX12 and improving multi-threading, world immersion, included charts, much improved physics and overall content. Not just how big of a visual upgrade they made.

No such thing as stupid posts. Just different opinions which should always be respected.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and choice of simulator. I have no doubt the scenery in MSFS is better than P3D (my choice of sims) but there’s far more to consider when making such a change away from a sim users may have extensive knowledge of.

I have 20+ years knowledge of the ESP-based sim that transformed from the original Microsoft Flight Simulator of the 90s to what LM have now delivered. I have hardware that is heavily configured to work with P3D. Changing to another sim means a lot of work to retain the status quo.

Same with software. Editing AFCADs for P3Dv5 is always available. But it isn’t for some in MSFS because the files are encrypted.

There’s far more to consider when making the jump and even if the effort is worthwhile. Those who decide to stay with what they’re content with should not be criticised.

"New! Improved!" 

Never fails. 

I'll get it when they start hyping 2028. It should be stable by then. 

2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

the files are encrypted

This is my biggest issue. With the other sims if something doesn't work some smart individual will post a handmade fix here and we can all solve the problem ourselves. 

With msfs you have to submit a bug report and pray it ever gets noticed or actioned. 

9 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

This is my biggest issue. With the other sims if something doesn't work some smart individual will post a handmade fix here and we can all solve the problem ourselves. 

With msfs you have to submit a bug report and pray it ever gets noticed or actioned. 

There’s no such thing as the perfect simulator. Every one has its pros and cons. Some cons are significant as you’ve just alluded to. If I’ve bought a scenery package I expect to be able to modify bad AFCADs and these are rarely error free.

4 hours ago, PTI139 said:

But all that has also a price: At least investments in advanced Hardware (new GPU in my case) and the Software itself (and costs for Addon updates).

You may be surprised how well MSFS 2024 will run on the same hardware compared to MSFS 2020, at least that's what they're telling us. Hopefully current addons will run in MSFS 2024 without to much extra hassle (or cost).

 

4 hours ago, PTI139 said:

Fair enough - If all these advantages you name do convince me some day I will surely change to the new version.

Not my intention to convince you, just sharing my thoughts. If you and anyone else stay with MSFS 2020 that's not taking away anything from my zest for life 😁